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A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE
Cronenberg’s take on the American way
by AMY TAUBIN

GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK.
Murrow, McCarthy, and TV before the fall
by PHILLIP LOPATE
The J-Word
by HARLAN JACOBSON
Plus, an ONLINE EXCLUSIVE: An interview with Grant Heslov
by HARLAN JACOBSON


SHOCHIKU
The studio that gave us both Ozu and Oshima
by CHUCK STEPHENS
Plus, an ONLINE EXCLUSIVE SIDEBAR
by CHUCK STEPHENS

OWEN LAND
The iconclast’s iconclast
by PAUL ARTHUR

FOREVER AMBER
Hollywood’s summer slump explained
by DAVID MAMET

MR. & MRS. SMITH
A remarriage at gunpoint
by STANLEY CAVELL

MIKIO NARUSE
The Japanese master rediscovered
Plus, an ONLINE EXCLUSIVE: The uncut article

by CHRIS FUJIWARA

WINTER SOLDIER
Vietnam flashback
by ROB NELSON

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September/October 2005

Interview with Grant Heslov, screenwriter of Good Night, And Good Luck.
by Harlan Jacobson
Page 2


What was your agenda? The media, right wing demagoguery…

George and I had tons of discussions. We wanted to illuminate a moment of history. We weren’t doing a biopic. This isn’t about the life of Edward R. Murrow. This really was about a specific period of time and a guy who was a hero. George’s father was a newsman, has been one for 30 or 40 years, mostly in Cincinnati, and still writes a column. Murrow was a hero in George’s household growing up, and was referred to all the time. He was probably a pretty flawed guy, but as a journalist, he was amazing.
We spent a bunch of time with his son, Casey. And Milo Radulovich, who lives in Lodi, California and is a fantastic older guy. He’s retired and is very politically active. Before we started shooting, we did a table read and we brought everybody in—Casey, Milo, etc., we wanted them all there. We wanted to make sure it was as accurate as possible.
As we got working, the parallels became so obvious. [We said] “Let’s be simple in this.” We didn’t want to hit anything over the head. So there was a lot of pulling back as well. The model for us was The Crucible, which 50 years ago was a not-so-thinly veiled stab at what was going on politically. This is our Crucible. That’s how we thought about it. It’s a brilliant play, but I certainly didn’t “get it” in high school. The more you research about that period of time, the more interesting it is. It’s different today but certain things are equally scary. It now has to do with civil liberties and the media.

The real McCarthyism is now abetted by the right wing talk shows… Did you mean to talk about those people by showing the contrasting world of Murrow?

Not overtly. The Ann Coulters of the world are an extension of the political tone that starts at the top. I’ve been speaking to a lot of journalists, and the one thing that everybody says is that it’s amazing how little access they have. This Administration has done an amazing job of controlling the media. That’s all wrapped up in what was going on with this film.

Why did you opt for no music? Perhaps this is Hollywood’s first Dogme 95 film…

Except for the stuff Diane Reeves sings. Our intention all along was to score it with a live band. George really wanted to play a lot of the silences in this piece. A lot of power would come out of the silences. We’re in the middle of mixing right now and there’s a tendency for people to fill it all up with [sounds from] a busy newsroom in the background. We wanted to be selective about that sort of stuff. The band and the singing is all live. It all had to be timed out, no lip-synching at all.

Why did you choose to have Joe McCarthy play himself?

That was an easy decision for us. That was something we decided a long, long time ago. We felt if we had an actor playing that role everybody would say it was way over the top. And that was it. We just couldn’t think of a person who could do it better than McCarthy did and said, Let’s just use the real footage.

What clear statement did you want to make about the present moment?

The political aspect of the film was secondary to us. We knew that there would be a lot of political hay out of this. That really wasn't our goal. For us it was strictly about the state of journalism.

That’s why I ask, since it seems quite clearly directed at the journalism community…

It wasn’t to say, “You suck,” it was to hold up a hero, a gold standard. Look at what happened at CBS…
We’ve been talking to CBS about doing something on 60 Minutes about Murrow and the state of journalism, which I think would be smart for them, personally. To address what’s going on at CBS News. They were known for their news division, now they’re talking about revamping the division to hip it up.
There was a time when the news wasn’t about making money. The networks got their license based on doing so many hours of news, public affairs programming, children’s programming, etc. Since deciding they could make money off the news, we’ve suffered for it. That’s really what we were addressing. We wanted to hold something up and say “Here is where it started . . . Here's something that was powerful.” And now we literally have a journalist locked up in jail for not revealing her sources. Pretty amazing.

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